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MSNBC
Mar 5, 2013 7:00pm PST
political constituency for it, you saw the pain that republicans like lindsey graham went through with a slight cut in defense. if you get to the stuff they want to cut, that they want the president to put his political capital on the line and say, i'll cut that, that's a very tiny sliver of the actual budget. all of the welfare program are like 10, 11% of the budget. so, really, if you want to name stuff you want to cut, they're very small and wouldn't save a lot of money, and also things that would make you look terrible. but they want the president to use his political capital to say, i'll cut home heating and meals on wheels. but they are the ones who want to do that. they should say it. >> and jared, the president in the state of the union address went through a litany of things he was prepared to cut and things that he was suggesting they might be able to reach compromises on, that he didn't get very specific about, but said, i'm willing to get into discussions about that. how is the president supposed to be able to get into discussions with the other side of the aisle, when people
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 1:00pm PST
break, one could note the absence of senior defense-minded senators like john mccain and lindsey graham, in the pitter patter of applause. and today we got an earful of why. >> but somehow to allege that the united states of america, our government, would drop a drone hell fire missile on jane fonda, that is -- that brings the conversation from a serious discussion about u.s. policy to the realm of the ridiculous. >> and when john mccain wasn't placing him in the realm of the ridiculous, lindsey graham offered his fellow republicans a tour of the hinterlands of hypocrisy. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up. what are we up to here? >> a very interesting question, senator graham. very interesting indeed. let's get right to our panel now. here with me in new york is msnbc contributor ari melber, a correspondent for "the nation." and in washington msnbc political analyst david corn of "mothe
MSNBC
Mar 5, 2013 10:00pm PST
easy? >> lindsey graham says that the president has called him -- >> the president had conversations with republicans and democrats. >> -- and wants to do a big budget deal. >> a new hope for a bigger bargain. >> there's a caucus of common sense out there. >> you are lying here! >> don't just sit is there and call me a liar. >> no! >> there is a caucus of common sense here. >> why are you yelling? >> okay! >> i'm not saying yes. i'm just not saying no. >> i think i know how to recycle those old bush 2000 yard signs. >> bush may actually be running. >> he is very serious about the idea of running for president. >> we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration. >> he's backing down on moderation. >> a path to citizenship, which i would support. >> and trying to prove his conservative bona fides. >> i don't see how you do it. we wrote this book last year. i have supported bo both. >> left to right, left to right, he's starting to look like mitt romney. it's not a good place to be. >> i have supported both. >> what i said is not what i believe. >> i
MSNBC
Mar 6, 2013 10:00pm PST
caucus of common sense in the next days and weeks? >> he's got lindsey grahams digits. >> the president asked that i get together a group. >> 11 public senators. >> i was honored. >> you know lindsey graham is ready. >> in the coming days and weerks i'm going to continue reaching out. >> he's absolutely determined to get something done. >> the gop has been tagged the party of no. >> now you have speaker boehner saying -- >> the president got his tax hikes. he got his tax hikes. the president got his tax hikes. >> there is still incentive among a lot of republicans to not cooperate with this president. >> all they really need is a hug and a lunch. >> i wish he had done more of that over the years. >> president obama is not their mom. >> where this goes, i don't know. >> there is a caucus of common sense in the coming days and coming weeks. i'm going to keep on reaching out. >> i've been relatively fair to barack obama. >> he doesn't do anything. >> it's jack what you're saying. >> he's not trying to solve the fiscal cliff. now i'm really angry. >>> president obama has just fini
MSNBC
Mar 8, 2013 8:00am PST
what he's talking about. >> senators john mccain and lindsey graham's scathing response to paul's nearly 13-hour -- >> i thought it was rather insulting for the way that these gentlemen responded to this. >> your words, senator, john mccain and senator lindsey graham fighting vehemently to defend president obama's policy. it was a little disorienting. >> joining me right now is senator bernie sanders of vermont, a member of the senate budget committee. sir, good to have you here. we start with what politico is putting out as the headline. grand bargain back with a question mark. we look at what paul ryan said after lunch with the president, where i think hope is being borne from. everyone needs to be part of this conversation. we need an open debate about how best to balance the budget and expand opportunities. so, sir, outside of the lines of the continuing resolution coming out of the house side. what you month would you guesstimate that we mae get the grand bargain? >> the issue is not the grand bargain. the issue is what's in the grand bargain. when you have growing inequality
MSNBC
Mar 6, 2013 2:30am PST
conversations among the rank and file with those more likely to cut a deal. among those, lindsey graham of south carolina. >> i'm very encouraged by what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of his presidencpresidency. >> graham has said he would consider increased revenue if it was coupled with changes to entitlement programs. republican leaders say they're not at all interested in discussing more taxes with the president. the tax issue derailed talks over how to derail the sequester, now administration officials say those budget cuts forced them to cancel all public tours of the white house. now more proof that d.c. can argue about anything, the "wall street journal" editorial reads in part this fits president obama's political strategy to punish eighth graders visiting from illinois instead of, say, employees of the agriculture department who will be sampling wine and sampling tasty dishes p
MSNBC
Mar 8, 2013 3:00am PST
lindsey graham? what did it tell you about the republican party? >> well, it doesn't say much about the republican party as it did about the inability of some within the party to understand where this thing is going. i think rand paul made a very important stance yesterday. he got the administration to admit something that heretofore refused to admit to, and i thought it was rather insulting, the way these gentlemen responded to this. look, i got the joke. you saw a lot of folks waiting all day long to see how these winds were going to blow. the finger in the air to see if this is going to take off. and then by 9:00 last night or the night before they were jumping on the bandwagon. but rand paul made a very principled argument before the nation that asked the very simple question. will this administration execute a policy that will kill a united states citizen on u.s. soil with a drone? break it down and give us an answer. so you know, this concept that, you know, the war is everywhere does not mean that the laws of war apply to everything. and i think that that was something that rand
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 8:00pm PST
impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. >> and lindsey graham calls out his own party. >> i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. >> tonight, james carville on the republican chaos on the senate floor. and i'll also tell you about an actual filibuster that matters. and why leader harry reid is to blame. >>> paul ryan visits the white house. and the president is getting ready to serve up the big three. senator bernie sanders joins me to tell the president to hold the line on earned benefits. >>> and netflix strikes gold with the political drama "house of cards." >> your life, peter, and what i know about it, you should assume there's no such thing as a secret. >> tonight actor michael kelly is here with all the latest on his hit series. >> good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. last night on this program we showed you this chart from the southern poverty law center. the number of extreme militia groups in america is at an all-time high. record high. now, today everyone is lathered
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 9:00am PST
senators, people like john mccain, kelly ayotte, lindsey graham, are people that are bothered by the defense cuts and sequester and might be willing to make concessions. what you hear from republicans in the house is, well, all the president has put on the table is tax increases, and that's not true, but half is tax increases, and republicans are never really going to like that. this is the group that you might convince to cut a deal with. >> although lindsey graham said, hey, we will put revenue on the table if the president is serious about entitlement reform, and that was not long ago. we just showed some tape, richard, of paul ryan entering the white house. i think that's -- i mean, look, we talked a lot yesterday about whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, whether it will amount to much. i think at the end of the day it's a win-win situation for both sides. republicans look less obstructionist. the white house looks like they are finally heeding the advice that the president needs to engage more, and the country sees the two sides talking, if not actually doing. >> right.
MSNBC
Mar 6, 2013 4:00pm PST
into the rank and file for compromise. at least that's what it looks like. lindsey graham commented on putting the group together. let's listen to lindsey graham. >> how do you say no to the president of the united states who would like to have dinner with some of your colleagues? you don't. when the president asked that i get together a group, i willingly and i was honored to try to do that. where this goes, i don't know. >> see how to explain the whole thing. almost apologizing for meeting with the president. the president will meet separately with the democratic and republican caucuses in both the house and the senate. joining me right now nia-malika henderson who covers all this. and former mayor willie brown. thank you for joining us. i want to talk about the appearance of this and the reality of this, which is more important? >> it is the appearance of it. for all reasons fall beyond anything we can ever fathom, this is the kind of thing that should have been done from the first day that the president was elected. he should have been able to develop a relationship with every pers
MSNBC
Mar 8, 2013 6:00am PST
got from john mccain and lindsey graham, who said this isn't the type of position on national security our party should be taking. >> on the democratic side, we saw joe biden's schedule. seems to touch on all the groups you would need to touch on to come through a democratic primary. but this far out, we're in march of 2013, it seems to me that it's hillary, and that decision, and that's it. from the aides i've talked to, if she wants it, it's hers. no one can challenge her at this point. there's no barack obama coming around. >> that's why we'll probably not get an answer from her for a couple of years, which is why all the activity that we're seeing is happening on the republican side. not only was rand paul making waves, jeb bush. we saw marco rubio taking center stage giving his state of the union response to president obama. all these republicans seem to be doing little different things to at least dip their toes in the 2016 waters to prepare themself for something still three years away. >> the pressure on hillary is unbelievable. lastly, carl levin retiring. this adds t
MSNBC
Mar 6, 2013 8:00am PST
calls made to a group of republicans. lindsey graham, rob portman, bob corker, tom coburn and susan collins. >> i expect the president to talk to various members. frankly i wish he had done more of that over the years. we've had all of us very limited interaction with the president. he certainly doesn't have to go through me to call my members. >>> so on the international front, seven days of mourning have begun for the polarizing leader of venezuela. live pictures as people are coming on ultimate en masse. the body being moved from a military hospital where he died taking through the streets and mass crowds. people started filling the roads last night as of news came he lost his two-year battle with cancer. as required by the constitution, an election is set for 30 days from now. the white house issuing this statement, saying at this challenging time, the united states reaffirms its support for the venezuelan people and its interest in develop -- that relationship, as we all know, between chavez and the president, that was a rocky one, straight up to the end. there was no u.s. am i
MSNBC
Mar 6, 2013 1:00pm PST
coburn, saxby chambliss, ron johnson, kelly ai yacht, lindsey graham. stoo several republicans in recent days. senator graham on tuesday described his phone call as and i'm quoting, the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of hissed. si. get that man an extra glass of his favorite reislin. a continuing resolution that led to democratic outrage on the floor. >> this is a disgraceful bill. and this process is not on the level. we have a budget that is doubling down on grinding down on the middle class. >> wall street is celebrating while the backs of poor people are been broken. this is not a rule that should pass today. we should remain snowed out. we shouldn't even be here. snow us out until we can get the right kind of balance. >> despite that clear opposition, it did pass keeping in place the sequester cuts while softening the blow for defense naturally. expected to take it up next week saying they'll oppose the measure without a vote to defund the affordable care act. i guess bitterness is always a dish best served cold. while we're on the subject
MSNBC
Mar 8, 2013 9:00am PST
mccain and lindsey graham, mounted a strong defense of aggressive counterterrorism actions, paul's 12 hour and 52 minute extravaganza scored a significant victory with the party's right flank and beyond. buzz feed reports "although wednesday's filibuster originally enjoyed only the support of conservatives, once it became clear that the conservative world was watching, and rooting for rand paul, a series of establishment figures rushed to his aid, including minority leader mitch mcconnell, and republican conference chair john thune. the old school, new school, old school split was evident on the twitter-verse. stand with rand began trending globally, and am they e-mail approximated supporters, defend your constitution, _#stand with rand. meanwhile, lindsey graham, intra-party scold got a _#of his own. primary graham. if there was any question about just how tense it might be in the upper chamber, the "new york times" ran this photo showing paul and mccain sharing an elevator ride after the elder senator accused the kentucky sion of disservice. hash tag, awkward. stephanie, we have tal
MSNBC
Mar 8, 2013 2:30am PST
mccain and lindsey graham are slamming rand's public protest and members of their own party have joined in. >> the country needs more senators who care about liberty. but if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. yeah, i don't even remember the harshest critics of the -- of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> "new york times" photographer caught this image yesterday of what must have been an interesting elevator ride for senators mccain and paul. >>> john brennan who's nomination to lead the cia was temporarily blocked by rand's filibuster was confirmed yesterda
MSNBC
Mar 5, 2013 3:00pm PST
you, james, senator lindsey graham. what he said today about president obama and how the president is still reaching out and we know all of the things graham has said. listen to this. >> he just called me. >> he did? >> yeah. i'm very encouraged about what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. maybe because of sequestration and frustration with the public, the time is right to act. he wants to do the big deal. >> so the president wants to do the big deal. he's doing the right thing according to lindsey graham. i mean, does this mean that there's a possibility that the president can work out a big bargain here or something? some kind of adjustment of compromise, james? >> well, listen. the president is always -- and he's shown himself to be willing and able to compromise. in fact, those of us on the left have been disturbed by some of the compromises that he has made. so he's always moving towards consensus. i think he's always demonstrated he's willing to work with folk in congress. this ryan budget is not
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 8:00am PST
, but john mccain and lindsey graham coming out in support of what the president has done, lindsey graham calling into question where were republicans during president bush's administration when they were using drones. joining me on set is ayman mull ha dean, you know firsthand from the work you've doane overseas, so we have the house judiciary committee, scheduled toic take up this conversation as well, certainly transparency is something that we want, but when we hear senator mccain mentioning the u.s. citizen that was killed in 2011, there was an op-ed piece in "wall street journal" "wall street journal" talking about what it means to be an enemy combatant. he was considered to be an enemy combatant, but in yemen. can a drone be used here if an enemy combatant is on american soil here. how will the conversation go? >> i think these are fundamental questions that have not been debated in the united states when it comes to applies the drone policy overseas. this is part of the criticism that many have against the united states, particularly allies like pakistan and others. the que
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 11:00pm PST
you have to do the walking into the fear, physically walk into it. look at this point lindsey graham made about the republicans who joined with senator paul in that filibuster yesterday. let's listen to graham. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know. i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side, they had a drone program back then. so what is it all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> you know, this is the fascinating thing about the right wing, and people watching this show are students of it, maybe in danger of it. you have the neocon people like lindsey graham and john mccain who are ready at the snap of the fingers to go to war. that's the first solution. let's go to war. they always have one ready. then you have the very conservative old pat buchanan breed, people like rand paul who are very suspicious o
MSNBC
Mar 6, 2013 10:00am PST
the temperature down, and it's worth noting senator lindsey graham put this list together. we have a graphic, i believe, of those who will be attending this evening. these are the senators who have been identified really as showing some sort of willingness to listen to compromise. richard burr, tom coburn, pat toomey, to name just a few of those who will be at the dinner tonight. in terms of what gets accomplished, i don't expect a deal from a grand bargain, but, look, there's no ticking time bomb. there is no stark deadline that they are trying to meet for a fiscal fight, which is really different from what we have seen in past weeks. so this really gives them the opportunity to have some type of conversation on these issues that have so starkly divided them. as you point out, it comes against the backdrop of president obama not reaching out enough to lawmakers on the hill, and also against the backdrop of house speaker john boehner saying he's not planning to negotiate with president obama moving forward. so, there is some hope this will begin to move the conversation forward. pres
MSNBC
Mar 8, 2013 1:00pm PST
each other. on thursday mccain and lindsey graham, as you know, skewered mr. paul, particularly his filibuster. so who wins this rare old tussle? is it the old guard or the new guard? >> it is an interesting establishment gop versus this tea party gop -- >> who wins? >> you know, i think rand paul within the conservative bubble comes out looking better. now, obviously to you and me we listen to it and graham and mccain are making more sense. rand paul is fighting a good fight against a problem that does not exist, a wild hypothetical that has not happened, perhaps never will happen. part of the gop's program of like real solutions for fake problems. americans in restaurants can rest assured that they will not be droned. >> i hope jane fonda knows that. >> especially if they're not combatants against america. so they can be comfortable tonight and into the future. but like rand paul 2016 is actually looking better. is he going to win the nomination? probably not. is he going to be president? certainly not. but he can be a player in 2016 and doing that thing we've seen in the primarie
MSNBC
Mar 5, 2013 2:00pm PST
lindsey graham and not what he was saying to chuck todd. the flip-flopping relative to the republican base, how do you see that playing? >> well, i think jeb has an opportunity here. much to ron's point on the substance, to really move the party in a different direction and off the particular pinhead it's on right now on immigration to a broader, you know, acceptance of the party of assimilation which we have always at least been historically, this idea that you are all welcome to this great land of opportunity, and i think he has a chance to carve that out. you know, don't try to out, you know, mar are mashco rubio or be more conservative than. if jeb bush is himself and is comfortable in this skin in his space as we have seen him up to this point, don't let the prospects of running for the presidency change you into something you're not. you run into the mitt romney problem, and then it's downhill from there. be himself and bring the party to your reasoning on this subject and i think, i think quite honestly people will be surprised at the response. >> ron, do you think t
MSNBC
Mar 8, 2013 2:00am PST
. he's been blasted for the filibuster by john mccain and sin lindsey graham for using scare tactics. >> so somehow allege or infer that the president of the united states is going to kill somebody like jane fonda or someone who disagrees with the policies is a stretch of imagination which is frankly ridiculous. ridiculous. >> the first ads for the first in the nation 2016 iowa presidential kau kigss are on the air. the patriot superpac is running the spots against virginia's republican governor bob mcdonnell for raising taxes. >>> a new book about hillary clinton calmed "the secretary" says the secret to her globe trotting stamina is hot peppers. >>> fashion designer vivian westwood is criticizing the first lady for what she wears. she calls michelle obama a nice looking woman but claims her clothes don't suit her. she calls the first lady's clothes, quote, dreadful. how can that be? >>> the white house says despite the extreme -- eggstreme budget cuts from the sequester the kids will not be disappointed. the annual easter egg roll will be held. the people's house will hold the annu
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 2:00am PST
house. linds lindsey graham and kelly ayotte took the president up on his offer. other republicans gave the thumbs up and said, they had a good exchange of ideas. no word on the tab. but the white house said that the white house picked up the check. >>> we talked about having to establish a process to move forward and i got the sense that president obama's planning on probably doing something with a similar gathering with some dem senators. he seemed very sincere to get engaged in the process. trasie potts has more. >> reporter: part of that process that he was talking about is really setting a different atmosphere and a different tone for compromise. first of all, to let these republicans know that the president is willing to compromise and number two, to talk about some of these key issues not just the budget and of course the budget and the cuts from sequestration are a big part of where these differences lie. things like immigration and gun control and to sort of bring down the temperature between the two sides. now on the same day that was happening on capitol hill, republican
MSNBC
Mar 9, 2013 9:00am PST
very antiwar, more libertarian, more isolationist, but john mccain and lindsey graham are on the other side. they want to intervene more abroad and what we're seeing here is this was like the biggest example yet of the big divide and the party between the rand paul part and the john mccain lindsey graham faction. you're going to see more of that happen as you move toward 2016. >> look at your latest perry on politics, the title of your article, why obama's new charm offensive could work. thursday lunch, tell me do you think this is going to work? >> this could work. and here's why. on the budget deficit, there's a group of republicans, bob corker of tennessee, lindsey graham of south carolina who want to reap some big bipartisan reduction deal that has tax increases and also spending cuts in it. and the president is trying to engage that group. try to work around. he knows mitchell mcconnell probably doesn't want to help him because of the primary. but the goal of the president is to work with republicans, about 12 republicans. if they can get something drawn together, they can r
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 12:00pm PST
standing against him? john mccain and lindsey graham. john mccain not much of a constituency in the republican party and graham worrying about a primary in 2014. rand paul showed that the republican party is coming around to paulism and he's a lot craftier than his father to bringing it around. >> to toure's point, that's problematic for the party because the rhetoric is still the old 2010 tea party makers and takers, i'm randism and damaging to the brand and so far out there. supports a complete ban of abortion and to the extent to embrace that, i don't think that's a positive development to the party. >> that's mane striming it. >> graham is promoting a fear of the american government, especially the obama-led, fear of american government and hear a lot from the savages and these people. that's just not -- >> then let -- if the fear is out there, let the administration address it and holder started to do that today. that's a positive letter. >> all right. >>> while they were all talk, the president and other republicans were fine dining. another important white house lunch today.
MSNBC
Mar 5, 2013 10:00am PST
lindsey graham and others have asked as to the rules of engagement as to targeted killings of americans. it was some of the others on the opposite end of it. we were asking for that. they still have questions about benghazi. it's going to sail through committee we expect. what about the floor vote? are we going to have a director of central intelligence by the end of the week? chris. >> well, andrea, you know, i always hesitate to predict. i'm going to go back to my first answer on when they vote. you never really know. i think we probably will. i think what senator feinstein announced this morning is there is more information given on drones and more information on the promise of more information on what happened in benghazi. that that would be enough. now, again, john mccain, republican from arizona, lindsey graham, republican from south carolina, have both said over the weekend on the sunday talk shows that they are holding out the possibility of still holding up the john brennan confirmation vote. my guess is at the end of the day they don't particularly after you see some
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 11:00am PST
mccain and lindsey graham camp than the rand paul camp. however, it was striking to a lot of people that the bright stars of the republican party like florida senator marco rubio and texas senator ted cruz joined rand paul in the filibuster against the obama administration's drone poll sane i think that's what really fired up folks like mccain and graham seeing some of the young stars of the republican party, the young tea party stars going on a tangent regarding national security and foreign policy and the republican party definitely isn't known for. >> let's play what rand paul -- just gave an interview this morning to glenn beck on his radio show. here's a little bit of what rand paul said regarding his critics. let's play it. >> government were comprised of angels we wouldn't need rules and so i try to make it less about president obama and more about what if some day we elect someone who wouldn't -- who would abuse this power? >> senator, there's been some criticism of your filibuster last night including from apparently lindsey graham saying that the idea is that we're going t
MSNBC
Mar 6, 2013 9:00am PST
, tom coburn, susan collins, bob porker, lindsey graham, and rob portman. he'll also dine tonight with 11 republican senators at the jefferson hotel and will travel to capitol hill next week to meet with caucuses in both the house and the senate. so far, the good will is being reciprocated. according to senator lindsey graham, what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue since the early days of his presidency. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell is all for daytont. >> frankly, i wish he'd done more of that over the years. we've had, all of us, very limited interaction with the president. he's certainly doesn't have to go through me to call on my members, and i'm sure he will, and i encourage him to do so. >> of course, necessity is usually the grandmother of change. despite several weeks of bully pulpit pressure, even the president acknowledged that his hands are tied unless congress decides to cooperate. >> this idea that somehow there's a secret formula or secret sauce to get speaker boehner or mitch mcconnell to say, you know what, mr.
MSNBC
Mar 7, 2013 6:00am PST
ideologic'd lodeological spectr. lindsey graham offered some background yesterday afternoon. >> the president called senator mccain and myself a couple of weeks ago, and senator mccain was his opponent, as you all thou know, in 2008. i see the president reaching out. the dinner that was supposed to be quiet is sad that it makes news. >> he's right about that. graham's closest friends were on the list. graham also included republican senators who have a particular interest in the budget debate, so that included pat toomey. graham is the only senator up for re-election in 2014. miguel rodriguez was there. vice president biden, not at the dinner. maybe this is the start of a new outreach. in his first term, mr. obama's outreach to republicans was sporadic at best and though the president bristles when that's pointed out -- >> i promise you, we invite folks from congress over here all the time. and when they choose to come, i enjoy their company. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i think they don't consider the optics useful for them politically.
MSNBC
Mar 5, 2013 1:00pm PST
. republican senator lindsey graham says he just spoke with the president by phone. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm very encouraged by what i've seen from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i have seen since the early years of his presidency. >> i'm really sorry to repeat history, but haven't we seen this before? the president compromises. the president goes to extreme lengths and guess what happens? the sequester happens. or there's a fight other the debt ceiling, or the continuing resolution will be brutal. what's the point? >> well, you have got a good point. essentially graham is one of the folks who is saying we have to have more revenues. he said he's open to $600 billion to revenues and the president is trying to reach out and see if that can be done. the situation we're in now is paul ryan has essentially a dog ate the homework kind of budget. nobody has to take responsible for these brutal cuts that make no sense and a
MSNBC
Mar 6, 2013 7:00am PST
spoke with lindsey graham yesterday. here's what graham had to say. >> i'm very encouraged by what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i have seen since the early years of his presidency. >> you know, critics have said what took so long for him to meet with lawmakers to try to hammer out a deal? is that fair? >> i do think it's fair. i have a big question, if we knew the sequester was coming for lo this many months, and if we thought there was some kind of a group of sensible caucuses the president has called t. the common-sense caucus, that he could meet with, why did we twiddle our thumbs under the sequester hit? i do think -- but i do think two things. first of all, it is encouraging that the president is doing this. i also thing what's particularly encouraging is there are some cracks in the antitask absolutely no additional taxes beyond what we agreed to in january, republican position. so center graham, center ay
MSNBC
Mar 9, 2013 5:00am PST
opening up. two examples, one is john mccain and lindsey graham on the floor. two ways to interpret it. one, you can interpret it as their reasserting control over what people think about the issues. and the other is, they're actually kind of threatened. we're going to take a break and we'll come back. graham and paul on the floor. [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. exciting and would always come max and pto my rescue. bookstore but as time passed, i started to notice max just wasn't himself. and i knew he'd feel better if he lost a little weight. so i switched to purina cat chow healthy weight formula. i just fed the recommended amount... and they both loved the taste. after a few months max's "special powers" returned... and i got my hero back. purina cat chow h
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Mar 9, 2013 4:00am PST
always get the same in return. >> so, aaron, why did mccain and lindsey graham attack him on the senate floor? didn't it hurt mccain and graham? >> it might. i think this is an area where graham and mccain have a very significant policy difference with rand paul and a lot of the new republicans who are joining the senate these days. at the same time, i think this is an issue -- you know, the rand paul filibuster got a lot of attention because it was fascinating this guy was talking for 13 hours. it wasn't necessarily that people in the republican party were embracing his message, so to speak. so, you know, i think the republican party is very much split on this issue but i don't think it's a point of emphasis. i do think it's interesting that mccain and graham are spending time making this point and mccain even calling somebody names, which is unusual for the senate. but i don't think this is going to be a big deal long term given that foreign policy is not at the top of the ticket right now. >> although, don't know, did you see that one picture of them inside the senate elevator
MSNBC
Mar 8, 2013 2:00pm PST
mccain and lindsey graham, are putting down rand paul because he isn't one of them and he dared to question the use of u.s. military power in this case against individual citizens. where are you, a man of the left, on this one? >> well, on the subject of drones, and this is a very interesting thing to watch this divide among the republicans whereas you say the establishment, which is reflexively pro-military on the republican side, is running up against the new tea party republicans who aren't to reflexively pro-military who are ideologically libertarian and see threats to civil liberties where some progressive lefties might also. i, too, am troubled like rand paul, like a stopped clock occasionally he's right and on the use of drones -- >> i used that phrase yesterday. did you watch last night because i said a broken clock is right twice a day. >> i didn't see that. great minds think alike. >> it's yours, too. let me go to cynthia -- if you want to finish that thought go ahead. rand paul can be pretty wacky. he's talking about the united states government hitting somebody in a caf
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Mar 8, 2013 10:00am PST
distorting an issue that really wasn't an issue, and john mccain and lindsey graham were among those that took him to task on the floor. really sort of teaching the new kid some lessons, some would say. >> that's what you do. you try to say, you know, i wish -- they always say how do you break up a filibuster? i said bring a cot. nobody would help him, and you do irritate your colleagues when you do that. you keep them up late at night, you know, and then you need some colleagues to come, and they won't come. anyway, there are fewer of those people percentage-wise in the senate than there are in the house where you have 80 people that didn't come there to limit government. they came there to stop it, and that's what they have to deal with over there, and i think he has them corralled in pretty well now. he is saying, you know, no spending cuts, but you can't tax your way out of this baby. you can't cut spending your way out of this baby. you can't grow your way out. you have to have a blend, and i think that's what they're working on, and i see that. >> what do you think of at least
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Mar 4, 2013 9:00am PST
there's no discretion. mitch mcconnell's filibuster -- and john mccain and lindsey graham were screaming for these because they were saying this is a national security emergency. at least give the executive more discretion. mitch mcconnell himself stopped both those bills along with the democratic bill. harry reid said i'll give you two republican bills if you'll just let us vote on this one democratic replace bill. i think that the republican party has allowed the rand paul wing to trump the national security wing. absolutely. >> there's another piece to that, though. the continuing resolution is something that sounds like everybody has agreed not to fight over. in large part, i think from the right because it's going to give the pentagon more leeway to decide where these cuts happen, and so everybody can agree, okay, republicans get what they want. the president doesn't want to renegotiate or relitigate another budget fight three weeks after this one. i just doubt, you know -- i doubt that we're going to actually see any movement on this at all before 2014. i mean, i think th
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Mar 5, 2013 11:00pm PST
in his first four years. you saw him have john mccain and lindsey graham in for a private conversation this week. to me that was a very good sign. it's very important that they keep talking to each other and maybe on some issues like immigration they can make some progress. >> and, eugene, politically speaking the white house already starting to lay plans for what's going to happen in 2014. they need 17 seats to take control. that's a tall order. it would have to be clinton-like in terms of its achievement. >> it's a very tall order, particularly after redistricting has made a lot of safe districts for the republican majority. it's very difficult to draw a map and look at it and see how they pick up those 17 seats. then again, we're getting used to some pretty big swings in the house. >> no doubt. >> and not all anticipated. >> thank you. >> it happens. >> thank you. >> thank you, gene robinson. thank you, jonathan alter. >>> up next, it's happened yet again, the right wing falls for another story without checking into whether it's true. this is "hardball," the place for p
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Mar 6, 2013 11:00am PST
include john mccain, lindsey graham and others. the president will go have lunch with mitch mcconnell. >> i expect the president to talk to various members. i wish he had done more than that over the years. all of us very limited interaction with the president and he is certainly doesn't have to go through me to recall my members. >> democratic congresswoman maxine waters from california, the top-ranking democrat. thank you for your time. i top the get your reaction to rand paul and the filibuster we are watching play out there. >> obstructionists. i know that this kind of trying to stop the president from having the people that he would like to carry out the various jobs and these agencies is absolutely li dickulous. this director is very much needed. for him to commit himself to filibustering for as long as it takes is a kind of destructive action that needs to stop in the congress of the united states of america. >> moving forward to the president having dinner tonight, weather permitting as we understand, what do you make of the perception that perhaps the president feels he needs
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Mar 7, 2013 7:00pm PST
issues. the fact that he is saying that lindsey graham has suggested the same thing. paul ryan is sitting at home trying to figure out a way to balance the budget in ten years. >> i think it is a good thing in taking that revenue and putting it and not using it to combat the deficit. >> it soupd sounds like they ar saying let's use some of it for deficit reduction. >> that is tiny. >> i guess it is. to me, it seems like the line has been in the last month. it was the line before the revenues got passed. we can't talk about any tax some every time that is invoked in the context of nef virevenue, i only discuss it in the context of opening up the tax code of being litigated and legislated in which case nothing is going to done. >> if they can figure out a way around it, the bush tax cuts were a lowering taxes because they doubled them on january 1st. if there was a way to make them about combatting the deficit and saying this is a tax hike, i feel like they could be baited into a tax hike. if it is plausible to get more revenue it is going to have to be in the context of calling it somethin
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Mar 9, 2013 11:00am PST
mccain and lindsey graham who asked him to step it back a bit. here's senator mccain thursday. take a listen. >> if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> let's introduce. maureen is a staff writer at salon.com. buzz feeds political editor and matt welch, editor in chief at reason magazine. and, matt, we'll start with you. it was a big week for your movement, so to speak. in fact, you couldn't contain yourself over at reason magazine. brian doherty said, "this was a very big deal. in 36 hours the republican party has completely changed." how so? >> that we're having this conversation to begin with. if you went to the 2004 national convention in new york city and listen to zell miller say it wasn't the journalist who brought us freedom of speech, it was the soldier. there was not a rand paul voice at that table at all. 2008, john mccain as the nominee. he's the most aggressively pro interventionist candidate since teddy roosev
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Mar 4, 2013 6:00am PST
spends too much money. >> unless you talk to john mccain or lindsey graham. >> with some exceptions. >> let's pivot to the other big story this week. i'm sure you all saw governor romney give his first interview. take a listen to just a snippet from that interview. >> a long and blistering primary where people are attacking one another and where the attacks are sometimes not on the mark but are creating an unfavorable impression, those things are not helpful. >> and he also went on to talk about the debates, those things are not helpful. kind of an understatement there, to say the least. >> says the man who eviscerated any number of candidates along the way. you ask newt gingrich how he feels about how those primaries went. ask rick perihow it was to stand next to mitt romney when he was in full attack mowed. somebody's gonna say something bad about you. it happens. >> he didn't sound like he was totally over the loss yesterday. >> no, he sounded really disappointed. he said it kills me that i'm not in the white house to work on fixing the country's problems. i believe that. i belie
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